{"id":31182,"date":"2020-05-11T03:00:27","date_gmt":"2020-05-11T10:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/?p=31182"},"modified":"2020-04-12T19:27:41","modified_gmt":"2020-04-13T02:27:41","slug":"q-do-i-need-to-turn-in-late-to-get-to-a-late-apex","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/q-do-i-need-to-turn-in-late-to-get-to-a-late-apex\/","title":{"rendered":"Q: Do I need to turn in late to get to a late apex?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Q<\/strong>: <em>\u201cI\u2019m told by my instructors to late apex corners, but I sometimes feel I\u2019m turning in too late, and I have to turn sharply to do that. Is there a way to use a late apex without turning in late? Or is this all geometry?!\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>A<\/strong>: That\u2019s a great question because I think the late apex advice is often \u2013 but not always \u2013 over-prescribed.<\/p>\n<p>Before I tackle your question directly, I want to clarify that there is an apex point or area, but there is also an apex angle. See, it\u2019s possible to clip past the right point or area on the inside of a corner, and yet still not have the car pointing in the exact direction you want so you\u2019re able to get a good exit out of the corner. It\u2019s important to think about the angle the car is at while passing the apex.<\/p>\n<p>Now to your question. Basically, you\u2019re asking if you can turn in earlier, and yet clip a late apex. All of this is relative, so when I say \u201cearlier,\u201d I\u2019m not talking a very early turn-in or apex. It\u2019s just earlier relative to the later turn-in and apex.<\/p>\n<p>There is a way to turn in relatively earlier, and still clip past the apex at the right angle. Sounds like the perfect world, and too good to be true, right? But if you use the timing and rate of release of the brakes just right, the car will rotate while turning in relatively early, and then merge onto the same path or line that you\u2019d drive if you turned in later. But you\u2019d be carrying slightly more speed, since you didn\u2019t need to slow as much for that later, sharper radius turn-in. Yes, that\u2019s the best of both worlds. But it\u2019s not easy. And I\u2019d even go so far as to say it\u2019s not for drivers who are not ready for it yet. It\u2019s a great target to aim for for less experienced drivers, but there are likely to be more important things to be focused on at this stage of one\u2019s development as a performance driver.<\/p>\n<p>I have three videos that might further answer your question. The first is <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/i8yrBuDFCwM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Rotate Your Car to Drive Faster.<\/em><\/a>\u00a0Then, <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/8RelHiC04o4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Use an Early Apex to Driver Faster. <\/em><\/a>\u00a0And finally, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/S_02por2p7A\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Why Use a Late Apex to Drive Faster<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Q: \u201cI\u2019m told by my instructors to late apex corners, but I sometimes feel I\u2019m turning in too late, and I have to turn sharply to do that. Is there a way to use a late apex without turning in late? Or is this all geometry?!\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":31444,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ask-ross"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31182","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=31182"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31182\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31183,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31182\/revisions\/31183"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/31444"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31182"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=31182"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=31182"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}