{"id":35679,"date":"2021-03-01T04:00:23","date_gmt":"2021-03-01T12:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/?p=35679"},"modified":"2021-02-28T15:38:43","modified_gmt":"2021-02-28T23:38:43","slug":"q-how-can-a-driver-learn-to-correct-slides-and-spins-better","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/q-how-can-a-driver-learn-to-correct-slides-and-spins-better\/","title":{"rendered":"Q: How can a driver learn to correct slides and spins better?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Q<\/strong>: <em>\u201cI\u2019m coaching a driver, and from his videos he is very slow to correct oversteer, and even slower to release the correction. This is leading to him spinning almost every time he gets oversteer. He has limited experience and is in a car with slicks, so maybe not surprising. He is a budget-limited guy (like all of us), and I don\u2019t know if I could get him on a skid pad. Any ideas on how to address his slow hands during a practice session at the track? Traction sensing session focusing on oversteer\/understeer to get him at least recognizing the onset of oversteer earlier? I just don\u2019t know of a good way without going and sliding a car around somewhere. Have him buy a cheap Miata and go autocrossing?\u00a0Suggestions?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A: I see this waaaaaay too often. I think some of the problem is that drivers are told to be smooth with their steering, so they\u2019re reluctant to turn the wheel quick enough to correct. Or, they just have a habit\/program to turn the wheel slowly. Or, they don\u2019t sense the need for a correction soon enough. Or, they\u2019re afraid that turning the wheel quickly will make the car do something really bad. Or, they\u2019re not looking in the right direction. Or, they think they can control it with a bit of steering, only to find out that they didn\u2019t?<\/p>\n<p>How to fix it (I spent the past year working with a driver on this exact thing):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Skid pad.<\/em> Yup, there\u2019s no doubt it will help. But it needs good coaching on the skid pad, too, otherwise the driver will just practice more of the same. The key is to have him practice moving the wheel quickly to correct.<\/li>\n<li><em>Sensory Input Sessions<\/em> will help the driver sense the need for a correction sooner.<\/li>\n<li>Change the setup so the car oversteers dramatically, and then practice \u201cquick hands\u201d to correct any slides.<\/li>\n<li><em>Mental imagery.<\/em> Important to physically move the arms\/hands while imagining catching a slide. A key is to build the trigger, \u201cQuick hands.\u201d Make that phrase part of his programming, so that whenever the car steps out, he uses \u201cquick hands.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>The further ahead a driver looks, the earlier they will recognize a slide (yaw angle), so coach them on this.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>All of these seem cheaper than buying a Miata (for once, the answer is not \u201cMiata\u201d!). However, the Miata solution is a great one, and would help (but I\u2019d still want to see the car setup to oversteer to get the driver practicing quick hands).<\/p>\n<p>Autocross? Yes, that would help, but the one downside of this is that most corners are relatively short duration. Compare a typical autocross corner to turn 1 at Mid-Ohio, for example. The advantage of a skid pad is that a driver can spend a long time in a slide, and therefore learn how to manage the slide (with quick hands). This is one reason I\u2019ve had road racers I\u2019m coaching go to DirtFish Rally School &#8211; so they can slide a car in gravel for a long duration. Rather than a \u201cwhat just happened?\u201d moment, it becomes a \u201cokay, that\u2019s oversteer, and I need to catch it\u201d longer moment.<\/p>\n<p>The message that he needs to program in his mind is this: \u201cInitiate slowly, react quickly.\u201d Sure, the idea is to turn into the corner with slow hands, but catch any slide with quick hands.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Q: \u201cI\u2019m coaching a driver, and from his videos he is very slow to correct oversteer, and even slower to release the correction. This is leading to him spinning almost every time he gets oversteer. He has limited experience and is in a car with slicks, so maybe not surprising. He is a budget-limited guy (like all of us), and I don\u2019t know if I could get him on a skid pad. Any ideas on how to address his slow hands during a practice session at the track? Traction sensing session focusing on oversteer\/understeer to get him at least recognizing the onset of oversteer earlier? I just don\u2019t know of a good way without going and sliding a car around somewhere. Have him buy a cheap Miata and go autocrossing? Suggestions?\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-35679","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ask-ross"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35679","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=35679"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35679\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":35680,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35679\/revisions\/35680"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=35679"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=35679"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=35679"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}