{"id":37635,"date":"2021-09-14T11:00:07","date_gmt":"2021-09-14T18:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/?p=37635"},"modified":"2024-03-23T09:18:58","modified_gmt":"2024-03-23T16:18:58","slug":"q-can-you-clarify-what-you-mean-by-collect-the-car-in-double-apex-or-diamond-corners","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/q-can-you-clarify-what-you-mean-by-collect-the-car-in-double-apex-or-diamond-corners\/","title":{"rendered":"Q: Can you clarify what you mean by \u201ccollect the car\u201d in double apex or \u201cdiamond\u201d corners?"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"Q<\/strong>: \u201cI am an instructor and often suggest to students that they review your Virtual Track Walks in preparation for a DE day.\u00a0They have asked me, \u201cWhat does he mean by \u201ccollect up\u201d the car in turn 2?\u00a0As you will recall, there is a\u00a0discussion of racing ovals and using a \u201cdiamond\u201d line.\u00a0We teach either the single apex or a double apex approach.\u00a0I can\u2019t explain to them what you mean by \u201ccollect up.\u201d\u00a0When we teach double apex, we are taking a relatively fast, straight entry, braking to apex 1, releasing\/rotating and driving to apex 2 and tracking out to the right side of the track. Perhaps the double apex approach with braking to Apex 1 and then turning is the same thing as \u201ccollecting up\u201d, but I\u2019m not sure.\u201d<\/p>\n

A<\/strong>: When you drive the car in fast using a double apex\/diamond line, at the point between apex 1 and apex 2 where you rotate the car (the point of the diamond), you should feel as though you need to collect the car. In other words, if everything is calm and easy, then you haven\u2019t driven the car in fast enough. Instead, at around the mid-point in the corner, after rushing the car in, the car should be understeering, oversteering, or in some amount of a slide. That\u2019s when you need to \u201ccollect\u201d it up \u2013 controlling the slide, so you can drive it out of the corner.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s the mindset you should have – that you have to \u201ccollect\u201d the car after driving it in so hard, and before you get back to power hard to exit the corner. You should feel as though you drove the car in hard\/fast, collected it briefly in the middle, and then driven it out hard\/fast. This is a different mindset than the usual “in slow-out fast” way of approaching a corner.<\/p>\n

I answered another question about double-apex or diamond corners a while ago \u2013 specifically about how to drive them. Go to https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/q-when-should-i-use-a-double-apex-in-corners\/<\/a> to read that post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Q: \u201cI am an instructor and often suggest to students that they review your Virtual Track Walks in preparation for a DE day.\u00a0They have asked me, \u201cWhat does he mean by \u201ccollect up\u201d the car in turn 2?\u00a0As you will recall, there is a\u00a0discussion of racing ovals and using a \u201cdiamond\u201d line.\u00a0We teach either the single apex or a double apex approach.\u00a0I can\u2019t explain to them what you mean by \u201ccollect up.\u201d\u00a0When we teach double apex, we are taking a relatively fast, straight entry, braking to apex 1, releasing\/rotating and driving to apex 2 and tracking out to the right side of the track. Perhaps the double apex approach with braking to Apex 1 and then turning is the same thing as \u201ccollecting up\u201d, but I\u2019m not sure.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37635","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ask-ross"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37635","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37635"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37635\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37638,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37635\/revisions\/37638"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37635"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37635"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37635"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}