{"id":40510,"date":"2022-04-19T07:00:19","date_gmt":"2022-04-19T14:00:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/?p=40510"},"modified":"2024-03-23T08:13:46","modified_gmt":"2024-03-23T15:13:46","slug":"q-is-the-turn-in-point-over-emphasized-and-just-how-important-is-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/q-is-the-turn-in-point-over-emphasized-and-just-how-important-is-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Q: Is the turn-in point over-emphasized, and just how important is it?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-40511 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Ask-Ross-image-2-300x169.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" \/><strong>Q<\/strong>: <em>\u201c<\/em><em>I had a thought about the discussion on turn-in points, especially as I\u2019m considering moving up to instructor in my local DE organizations. I understand that a consistent turn-in is an important concept for novices, but I wonder if we spend too much time thinking about it as people progress through the spectrum. We focus on looking ahead, focusing on apex and End-of-Braking (explicitly not the turn-in point in most cases), and feeling the car. As I\u2019ve progressed through DE to wheel-to-wheel competition, I notice that turn-in is one of the first things to \u2018sacrifice\u2019 to make sure that, on\u00a0this\u00a0lap in\u00a0these\u00a0conditions the car is oriented\u00a0thus\u00a0at the apex. I\u2019ve also noticed that many even advanced DE (and slower racers) seem to have learned how to drive a particular \u2018track recipe\u2019 really, really well but struggle when things get a little weird (greasy tires, wet track, traffic, etc.). Just as we move from straight line braking to trail braking, should we be de-emphasizing turn-in as something to expect to be consistent? Or, am I missing something more fundamental? I\u2019d love to hear your thoughts on this.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>A<\/strong>: I agree with you. You talk about the \u201ctrack recipe\u201d and I do think too many drivers drive in a formulaic way, instead of seeing the big picture. Hey, most start off by connecting the dots, from one cone to another without understanding why that is the line through a corner. I\u2019ve asked a driver on occasion why they drive the line that they do, and with a slightly confused face, they reply, \u201cBecause that\u2019s the line my instructor told me to drive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Of course, we do need to build a foundation before moving on to bigger and better things, but you have a great point. Maybe it\u2019s not so much de-emphasizing the turn-in, but rather emphasizing\u00a0<em>why<\/em>\u00a0it is where it is, and\u00a0<em>why<\/em>\u00a0it needs to change at times. The typical reference points &#8211; usually marked by cones &#8211; seem to be set in stone by too many instructors (who may not fully understand why they\u2019re where they are, themselves).<\/p>\n<p>It sounds to me that you\u2019re already a better instructor than many because you\u2019re thinking about stuff like this. While our goal should be to start with the basics and build from there, all along the way there should be an additional goal of helping students understand the bigger picture, especially why we do what we do.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Q: \u201cI understand that a consistent turn-in is an important concept for novices, but I wonder if we spend too much time thinking about it as people progress through the spectrum. Just as we move from straight line braking to trail braking, should we be de-emphasizing turn-in as something to expect to be consistent? Or, am I missing something more fundamental?&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40510","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ask-ross"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40510","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40510"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40510\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":40512,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40510\/revisions\/40512"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40510"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40510"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40510"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}