{"id":6016,"date":"2017-07-02T10:55:35","date_gmt":"2017-07-02T17:55:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/?p=6016"},"modified":"2017-07-04T14:58:07","modified_gmt":"2017-07-04T21:58:07","slug":"any-guidelines-for-how-to-set-and-monitor-brake-bias","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/any-guidelines-for-how-to-set-and-monitor-brake-bias\/","title":{"rendered":"Q: Any guidelines for how to set and monitor brake bias?"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"ask-ross-bentley-q&a\"Q:<\/strong> This weekend I did my first event in a Formula Continental.\u00a0This is a step up from the Formula Ford I drove last year.\u00a0The FC cars are faster, corner with more lateral acceleration, and stop better.\u00a0In the afternoon race on Saturday at Thunderhill, I had two snap spins going into T10.\u00a0The first time it happened, I was trying to go a little deeper before braking, and I did mash the brake pedal pretty hard. The second time, I went maybe a little deeper, and got on the brakes what I thought was with moderate pressure.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve always associated such snap spins under braking with rear lock-up.\u00a0On Friday, during a few test sessions, I had some wiggling under braking at T14, so after the two spins on Saturday, I wanted to check the bias pressures.\u00a0We have an Aim data system on the car, with pressure transducers on the brakes, so we adjusted the rear down about 50 psi on Sunday morning.\u00a0I didn\u2019t have any problems on Sunday, but I didn\u2019t push it either.\u00a0I\u2019m really not confident the fronts will lock first. I realize brake bias is a moving target, but do you have any guidelines for how to set it and how to monitor it?\u00a0Would anything else cause these snap spins under braking?<\/p>\n

A:<\/strong> It sure sounds like the brake bias was too far to the rear. That would explain the \u201cwiggling\u201d on Friday, and the spins.<\/p>\n

With the data, find the longest, hardest brake zone on the track, and overlay the front brake pressure over the rear pressure. Put the cursor just after maximum braking and read the front and rear pressures. Turn that into a percentage ratio (i.e., front is 55% and rear is 45%). Every car is different, so I\u2019d start by comparing Friday\u2019s bias to Sunday. My guess with that car is that it should be somewhere around 54-55% front, 44-45% rear. But it could be as much as 53-47% to 56-44%. Ideally you would go on track with older tires (ones you can afford to lock up), and purposely lock up the brakes and make note of which lock up first, dialing it in to the point where the fronts lock up just a fraction of a second before the rears (that\u2019s more stable and easier to correct for). Then you would take the bias reading from the data and know that\u2019s your starting point.<\/p>\n

Different conditions will mean different biases, too. With less track grip (rain, especially), you want more rear bias (maybe 1% more to the rear). Why? Because you can\u2019t transfer as much weight to the front tires when you have less grip, so the rears will do more work. With more track grip, you might be able to dial more bias to the front. As tires wear, sometimes the fronts will go off before the rears (or vice versa), so in that case you\u2019d adjust the bias to the rear slightly and gradually as the tires wear.<\/p>\n

Another method you can use is to put the car up on jack stands and manually check the bias. Have someone sit in the car to use the brakes (or reach and pull the brake pedal by hand). Have them push down on the brake pedal gradually and slowly as you turn\/rotate the front tire. As soon as you can\u2019t turn the wheel any more, have the driver hold that pressure on the pedal. Go to the rear and turn the wheel – you should be able to just barely turn it. This will mean the fronts have a little more bias than the rears. This technique might take a few times to get it right, and it\u2019s something that you get a feel for, but it\u2019s surprisingly effective. Again, then turn on the data and take reading right then as to what the numbers are and compare that to past readings. Over time you\u2019ll learn what you and your car likes best.<\/p>\n

Brake bias can make a big difference!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

In the afternoon race on Saturday at Thunderhill, I had two snap spins going into T10.\u00a0The first time it happened, I was trying to go a little deeper before braking, and I did mash the brake pedal pretty hard. The second time, I went maybe a little deeper, and got on the brakes what I thought was with moderate pressure.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6016","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ask-ross"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6016","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6016"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6016\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6076,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6016\/revisions\/6076"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6016"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6016"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/speedsecrets.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6016"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}